Open Carry Rules For RNC, In Black & White

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The Wall Street Journal gives the rundown of what is allowed in the area of the RNC.

Considering all open carriers: Who is going to be in more danger of being arrested for suspicious behavior before the event? During? After?

White men 

Black men

I think many of the black men considering open carry will be arrested before the event on some trumped up charge, just to keep them out of the picture.  The ones who make it through will be fine, unless there is a panic. We all know what happened to the last black guy who open carried at a protest and there was a panic.

I believe many of the white men considering open carry won’t be arrested before the event. The government treats the white Republican men differently, even if they have a previous criminal history of protesting with guns. (See Bundy Ranch and Malheur refuge stories below)

I do predict that some open carriers will be arrested at the event. They want to show how peaceful they are and how they aren’t afraid of the police. They want to prove average people shouldn’t be afraid of them.

In my experience the people who open carry work closely with local law enforcement in advance of events. They tell them who they are, where they will be, and what they will be doing at what time. They know the state and local laws cold (which they will happily gunsplain to you). The also know which public locations are safe as well as which private businesses welcome them.

After the protect any arrested open carriers will sue for false arrest and declare that their 2nd Amendment and 1st Amendment rights were infringed. (They might even get the ACLU to help them!)


Win or lose, the image of an open carrier being peacefully arrested by big government will be used to fuel their righteous anger. Photos will show the open carriers are the real victims and their rights are under siege at all times, everywhere, by everyone.

Do we use trumped-up charges or just old ones? 

The government will use trumped-up or old charges for white Oath Keepers too. But the government won’t try as hard to arrest them as they will to arrest peaceful democratic protesters. I think that is a mistake and a waste of resources, but arresting dirty hippies is always on the to do list. But why won’t they arrest more in advance?

I think it’s because the police expect the RW white gun guys to follow the rules. Of course if they don’t, it they screw up and have an accident, they are given a pass because they have “good intentions.” They also believe that in a tense situation RW white guys will comply with their orders.

The idea that is pushed by the gun carriers is that protestors with guns will help the police in a shoot out. Do police believe white open carriers are automatically on the side of police? Do they feel the same about open carriers of other colors?

One thing we do know is that some white people who protest with guns aren’t on the side of government law enforcement–at all.

The Bundy Gang’s White Gun Privilege: 

Feds: “We’ll give you two years to stop pointing your guns at us!”

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Eric Parker near Bundy Ranch NV,   April 12, 2014 Photo credit: Reuters/Jim Urquhart

Remember this guy, Eric Parker? Here he is in April of 2014 aiming his rifle at federal agents near the Bundy Ranch in Nevada. He also went up to Burns Oregon to protest, but wasn’t on site at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in December 2015.

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Eric Parker April 12, 2014 Photo credit: Reuters/Jim Urquhart

The government didn’t arrest them at the time because they didn’t want to have an incident. This is a perfectly rational thing to do, since it avoids bloodshed. After the event is over, the arrests begin at a time and place of the government’s choosing. (I love this phrase by the way, it sounds so badass.)The government treated Parker and his buddies,white men pointing guns at the feds, with fear and respect.

However, instead of arresting and prosecuting those people right away, I believe deals were cut in exchange for no further protesting, or for turning state’s evidence on others in the group.  You will note that people who stopped going armed to protests made statements in the media saying that what happened in Malheur was wrong.

However, in a big group, not everyone gets the memo to stop poking the tiger.

I think these are the people who will be showing up at RNC to protest while openly carrying. They want to give the impression to the public that they are good people to be trusted. But whatever happened to that group of white men who protested with guns?

It turns out that the government shouldn’t have trusted them. Some didn’t honor their agreements, others ignored the conditions they got in exchange for not being arrested. Imagine that, an anti-government group going back on their word with the government! So now the government gets to arrest them with stronger evidence. Yay for justice, but it took two years too long.

In March of 2016 in the state of Idaho the government acted:

FBI Raids Going Down: More Bundys Arrested, Eric Parker And Other Militants 

Story from Freak Out Nation: Making Tea Partiers Cry Since 2009

Post Event Actions Black Vs. White.

I’m actually an optimist, not an alarmist. All this open carry might go smoothly for both black and white open carriers. Everyone might remain calm and there might not be any “bad apples” who didn’t get the memo to be chill.

If all goes swimmingly the difference between the two groups will be how law enforcement treats them and tracks them after the event.

Based on this history of white men with guns protesting, after the event law enforcement might contact them. “Hey, we know who you are. What you did was stupid and dangerous, just don’t do it again.” This is another example of white gun privilege.

After the event law enforcement will contact the black men. “You are a troublemaker and a pot stirrer. We have our eyes on you. One slip up and bam, you are a felon with no gun rights. Stop doing this. Don’t be stupid, you are just putting yourself in danger.”

Protectors Vs. Thugs on Fox News

A safe open carry event will be positioned by the media (especially the RW media) differently depending on the color of the group that successfully does it.

For the white guys, photos of their restrain while armed will be praised. “See? Nothing happened. Nobody got shot. Everyone got scared for nothing. They are the good guys.”

For the black guys photos of their restrain while armed will be used to show they are violent extremists waiting to riot.

 I point to the time one unarmed New Black Panther at a polling place door made Sean Hannity lose his mind.  “He is intimidating voters! People feared for their lives!”

Now I could describe what would happen if there is an incident, but I have to spend some time fixing my engines before I can slingshot around the Sun for a look at the future. Maybe next week.

But here’s a question. What if we don’t “dodge a bullet” and something bad happens with all these open carriers?  Would it get people in Ohio to say, “Hey, we should CHANGE THIS LAW! Why are we putting ourselves in this stupid position?”

And if they do, what can be done to get their wish fulfilled before the NRA kills any change? Why don’t we prepare for that future?

Yet Another Concealed Gun Carrier Screws Up, Shoots Four At Restaurant

Police: Man accidentally discharges gun, injures 4 Marquette students

MILWAUKEE June 22, 2016—Police said a man accidentally discharged his weapon and injured four Marquette students at Sobelman’s restaurant Wednesday evening.

David Sobelman said his restaurant at 16th and Wells streets was on lockdown after the shooting, which took place around 7:30 p.m.

Police said the shooter, a man in his 20s, accidentally fired a gun in the vestibule at Sobelman’s front door. Debris from the bullet hit four Marquette students who were standing nearby.

The students, three females and a male, were only dealt minor injuries and didn’t go to the hospital.

The man left after the shooting, police said.

Sobelman said the shooter and his friends got into a car and “disappeared.”

“You have to be pretty stupid to shoot yourself with your own gun,” Sobelman said.

Police are unsure if the man injured himself and do not have anyone in custody in connection to the incident.

An investigation is ongoing. WISN ABC June 22, 2016

I contacted Milwaukee police last week for more details, but the shooter hasn’t been found or come forward . . . → Read More: Yet Another Concealed Gun Carrier Screws Up, Shoots Four At Restaurant

Don’t worry folks, Trump will lose, this time

Just returned from 2019. Spotted this bumper sticker. ‪#‎SpockoTheTimetravelingVulcan‬

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What If We Pushed Body Armor Like The NRA Pushes Guns?

Testing a bulletproof vest in Washington, D.C. September 1923. This work is from the National Photo Company collection at the Library of Congress.

I’ve marveled before at the multiple strategies the NRA uses to sell more guns. They make money after ever mass shooting. They have created an environment where the answer to any question about guns is more guns. It’s ridiculous, but clever. It makes sense that Donald Trump is happy to be part of this selling scheme.

I’ve been talking to people at several groups lately about what strategies can be used to make changes in how we tackle the gun problem in our society. I’m looking at multiple ways from legal to financial to cultural. I’ve wanted to know what worked, what didn’t and why.

As part of the exercise I looked at what the NRA did to get where they are today and wondered how a group could do the same, only with a different product, one that could prevent deaths.

What if that group had the same willingness the NRA has shown to use every technique in their bag of tricks to sell more products–no matter the consequences?

Illustration Credit: Spocko

I picked . . . → Read More: What If We Pushed Body Armor Like The NRA Pushes Guns?

How NRA will profit from 9th Circuit ruling on concealed guns in public

Carrying concealed weapons in public is not a 2nd Amendment right, says 9th Circuit ruling

..a federal appeals court said Thursday people do not have a right to carry concealed weapons in public under the 2nd Amendment.

An 11-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said law enforcement officials can require applicants for a concealed weapons permit to show they are in immediate danger or have another good reason for a permit beyond self-defense.  — AP Mercury News 

Of course some conceal carrying commenters from around the country are demanding to know, “What part of SHALL NOT INFRINGE don’t these people understand?!” They will follow that with how happy they are they don’t live in California. (I’m happy you don’t live here too Shootie McGlockface)

 The people who are really happy with this development? The gun makers and the NRA. They are probably shooting the corks off of American sparkling wine tonight. This is good news for them.

The NRA will purposely misinterpreted this court’s decision and combine it with the possibility of Hillary Clinton as President. It will become this quarter’s hot PR campaign to sell more guns.

“Hillary Clinton and the activist judges in California are trying to take away . . . → Read More: How NRA will profit from 9th Circuit ruling on concealed guns in public

It’s not unusual to feel about elections

As a half Vulcan half human male from another planet it’s hard for me to totally understand both the happiness and frustration that yesterdays’ election results were received by my friends on the left in America. My friends Susie, Angie, David and Raf  have all made great points about feeling happy or happy/sad with both frustration and pride.

I suppose it’s not unusual for people to feel this way.

I just want to acknowledge what has been accomplished in America. With that I give you a black man and a white woman dancing.

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Who is Michal Spocko and why should we listen to him?

Lately I’ve been writing some big companies to explain why it would be wise to change their policies on guns to more closely align with their brand image. I explain that a failure to do so will cost them money. I used all the various appeals to authority, but I neglected to provide the people with an easy way to let them know who I am. I had this in my “About” page.

About me. A brain in a box.

Contact me at spockosemail at gmail . com

I didn’t even say “I’m just looking for a piece of the action.” like I do on my twitter page @spockosbrain, Or  “I went to Star Fleet Academy”, like I do on Facebook.  But I should have probably told them a bit about my past and the last time I made some suggestions to CEOs, CFOs, COOs and CMOs of RW radio stations and TV.

People often use visual short cuts to help them make decisions about people. They also use signifiers of education, years of experience and associations as a quick way to decide who to listen to on a topic or whom to ignore. Where did they go to school? What is their degree . . . → Read More: Who is Michal Spocko and why should we listen to him?

Fun Video by @SketchShe for #RedNoseDay

I’m a huge fan of Shae-Lee @ShaeLeeShack, Lana @LanaKington and Madison @madisonLloyd from the comedy group SketchShe.

They made this fun video last year for #RedNoseDay It’s them lipsyncing to Queen’s “Don’t Stop Me Now” across Luna Park in Sydney.

Red Nose Day is about helping lift children out of poverty. This video helped lift me out of gloominess. Watch it, it’s really fun.

Got my rednose @walgreens then watched @SketchShe fun 2015 #RedNoseDay video https://t.co/9hyY9Ssf7Q @WalgreensNews https://t.co/SSVPGiNabh

— Spocko (@spockosbrain) May 26, 2016

Walgreens Boots Alliance, Inc. rings opening bell for RedNoseDay Nasdaq: WBA

This year the sponsors had some fun. This is Skip Bourdo, Walgreens Corporate Operations Vice President [Nasdaq: WBA] and Christy Gibb of the Comic Relief Board of Trustees ringing the Opening Bell at Nasdaq. I wonder if this years’ Red Nose Day partners from Mars Chocolate North America brought any snacks?

I think it is great when companies do this, it’s one way of showing that they care about their customers and their communities–while having fun doing it.

I often focus on serious issues, but I believe that most people in companies are decent and want to do the right thing. . . . → Read More: Fun Video by @SketchShe for #RedNoseDay

5-year-old shoots, kills self because dad’s afraid of a Werewolf?

What the what?

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W. Virginians can now carry concealed guns with no permit or training

Starting today, May 24, 2016, legislation goes into effect that will allow most West Virginia residents to carry concealed handguns without a permit.

They also aren’t required to have any training. At all. As in zero. Nadda. Zilch.

That means no safety training with a gun is required. No live-fire training with a gun is required. They aren’t even required to watch a 5 minute video on gun safety.

This is insane.

West Virginia is now one of eight states where no permits are required: Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi and Vermont.

No permits, no training, the cheapest guns in the USA! What could possibly go wrong? Credit: Taber Andrew Bain Creative Commons license 2.0

I watched some of the video of West Virginians legislators talking about this decision and it boggles my mind this passed.Friends who carry concealed guns take the required training very, very seriously. One has explained how dangerous it is for people from states with weak or no training requirements to be allowed reciprocity carry with his state.

The people in the conceal carry world hammer on the need for training. I was watching a live fire conceal carry training video today. A guy who regularly carries a gun and spends hours at the firing . . . → Read More: W. Virginians can now carry concealed guns with no permit or training