Wednesday, November 10, 2004

It's all the rage! Christian rage

Here's part of my letter to Joshua Micah Marshell of Talking Points Memo regarding this post. He talks about the historical roots of this electorial split, the high murder rates in "red states" and offers this dark observation:

But in the Southern states, where murder rates are higher in small towns and rural areas, this isn’t the case. Rather than happening in the process of committing other crimes, these murders tend to be rooted in what are best described as violations of honor, personal slights that escalate into violence or in the simplest sense, rage.

Josh:

I found your post about murder in the south interesting. With all this talk about “moral values” when it comes right down to it the thing that got a lot of voters out was fear and hate. What no one really wants to talk about is just how much of the motivation for the evangelical Christians is based on hate. Think about the choices given to voters at the exit polls. There was no choice for “I hate gays.” Like so much of the Bush rhetoric this was about a false choice. “Good Christians” would not admit they really voted their hate. In a culture that kills over passion, yet wants to provide a façade of politeness, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that they are politically correct enough not to talk about their hate while pretending to be about love and life.

Why does no one bust them on this? Because like today’s comedians, you can’t tell black jokes unless you are black. They should be busted from inside. But they won’t be. They are given easy hate targets in terrorists and gays and uppity women. They used to have blacks to kick around (with biblical permission!) but not anymore. The church should have come out strongly against the war. For them to say that getting out the vote against gay marriage is their priority is a failure of leadership. The leaders allowed their fears to drive them which also allowed their followers to bring out the hate vote with impunity.

And regarding messed up priorities in the Churches, I'm looking at you Pastor Brian Lacroix, pastor at Aberdeen Wesleyan Church in South Dakota! I heard him on Talk of the Nation talking about his priorities: Against abortion, against gay marriage, for hate speech (although he said he was really for free speech so that he could talk about the hate in the bible without being busted.)

Oh and Pastor Brian, if you find this, and I'm sure you will (because you'll Goggle your name soon and find it.), isn't vanity a sin? And then ask yourself, "How do my political comments and activities match up with the NEW TESTAMENT, synoptic Gospels? Especially Mark 12:30-31 ("And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these.") or are you a "Leviticus-trumps-Jesus-Christian?

4 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Spocko, what's the most accurate guess at the death count for civilians in Iraq? I've heard all sorts of numbers and know that you're more on this stuff then I am. I've also heard huge numbers as far as the citizens that were killed when Saddam was in power, and although I suspect that those weren't true, I am just curious if you had better numbers for both of those things.

~Prisoner 7104

4:01 PM  
spocko said...

Dear Prisoner 7104:

Civilian death count ranges from a minimum of 14304 to a maxium of 16439.
More details here.
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database/

Also the medical Journal Lancet just estimated that there were 100,000 "excess" civilian deaths in Iraq over the last 18 months.
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=611455§ion=news

Finally I just heard from the creators of Arlington West that the actual number of soldiers that have died because of Iraq is closer to 3,500 because they don't count you as a war casuality if you die of some wound AFTER you have left Iraq. I'm still tracking down the source of that.

5:58 PM  
Anonymous said...

Very interesting read.
However, with the president in a position to tip the balance of the Supreme Court, this may be the chance to end abortion. Perhaps that could justify the Christian support for Bush.

Kott

5:38 PM  
spocko said...

Kott: Quite true, quite true. Thanks for posting! But Supreme Court appointments are such an abstract thing. As George Lakoff has pointed out part of the issue with abortion in the political arena is really about control. The Republicans want to position themselves as the "stern parent" and who needs an abortion in the eyes of the "stern parent"? Out of control children and uppity women. That isn't hate, but it isn't about love.

11:23 PM  

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