Monday, August 17, 2009

Will they only be happy when there is blood on the podium?

PHOENIX - About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday - the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.

Story from KTAR (which I understand from a Spocko's Brain fan, sucks, but I went there to see the comments which were oblivious and bizarre.
  • The reason....
    Jason S.
    for the 2nd admendment is to give the people power to remove enemies of the state "foreign and domestic", "commoner and president". The early americans new that evil people only fear their death and that arms, swords and muskets (guns), were the only way a free people could remain free.
  • cont...
    Jason S.
    Whether you like it or not it it is your requirement as an American to take arms against those who are against true freedom. Obama and his cirle of friends, republican and democrat are enemies of freedom. The only diference today is we "think" we can reach an agreement with civility, but the truth is that you can't reach any agreement with people who don't want one.

  • Here was my response.

    You don't really mean that "Obama and his cirle of friends, republican and democrat are enemies of freedom".

    Do you really mean that "Whether you like it or not it it is your requirement as an American to take arms against those who are against true freedom."?

    You are just joking, right? Because if you meant those things then that would mean you would have to take up arms against Obama and his cirle of friends.

    Have you taken up arms? Why not?

    Someone else posted how this was no big deal. Really?

    As for the guns at the protest, said hb1234100, "nothing happened so what is the problem?"

    What makes them, said PCUB, "nuts??? They are exercising their 2nd Amendment Right. There was no fight, no arrest, so what is the problem?

    You know this is insane. I think all those people who are strong 2nd Amendment supporters need to take these people aside and say, "You are not helping."

    They right often said that the moderate Muslims need to tell the radicals to knock it off. Well the people who aren't nuts who have guns need to tell these people that this is inappropriate given the history of Presidents who were assassinated or who were targets of attempted assassinations.

    Would the posters have said the same thing about John Hinckley?

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    Blogger Jim said...

    I don't think there is any need to shoot a president (even Obama can only do so much damage in 2 years until the midterm elections). However, I have no problem with people carrying guns near the president or near me. I think it's incredibly stupid, because I'd be afraid (as a gun owner) that if I moved the wrong way the secret service would be obligated to fill me full of holes. If one of these guys had gotten shot by the secret service, the right wing nutjobs would have been up in arms about it, but I think the average american wouldn't have thought twice about it. And yes, John Hinckley had the right to bear arms.

    8:03 AM  
    Blogger (O)CT(O)PUS said...

    I just saw this at the Huff Post moments ago:

    “Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health System (VIDEO)”


    This incident, and the appearance of guns at town hall meetings, are meant to intimidate and silence people. It also exposes a sad fact: This "freedom to dissemble" is bringing out the worst elements ... racists, bigots, anti-Semites, white supremacists, and the latent violence of extremist militias.

    I don't hear or read any condemnations of these behaviors from politicians on the right. As the saying goes, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Thus, the right wing promotes this, exploits this, and milks it for every advantage without forethought about the ethical and moral consequences.

    It seems the Republicans have lost their moral compass and polarized the entire country. If they can no longer engage in honest and civil discourse, then they no longer deserve a seat at the table. We'll get reform done without them.

    7:02 AM  
    Blogger Grung_e_Gene said...

    The underlying Republican message is, in case of defeat, one or more brainwashed emotionally disturbed Republican supporters will turn to the Bullet Box and has the moral right to "forcibly remove" Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and any other Nazi Democrat as needed.

    10:41 AM  

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