Thursday, December 07, 2006

How KSFO Views Advertisers?

Like I said earlier, if some nice people from an agency or a placement firm like Interep starts looking to see where Disney station KSFO is and want to know, "Who is Brian Sussman, Melanie Morgan and Tom Brenner and why are they calling Barak Obama a Halfrican?" (audio link) Media Matters link They might find this post.

I think it is instructive for the advertisers to see how they are viewed internally at the Disney station KSFO company. Especially new advertisers who might be coming on board when a sudden opening appears (why the sudden opening?)

Someone who calls himself Spocko's Vendetta (who appears to be part of the sales team at KSFO based on his comments about Cache Creek) and who also writes remarkably like sales manager Michael Black, although with weaker grammar and punctuation, had this to say in my blog comments.

Spocko's Vendetta said..

i think you're a fraud. you don't really care about at&t who makes a ton of money by selling pornography, visa who rips of the consumer and keeps them in dept or fed ex whose airplanes increase global warming. those companies are making a killing compared to ksfo which bills about 15 million a year. no you are a fraud mr. spocko. you have your own personal agenda and vendetta against the station. you're probably working for michael savage ,bernie ward or one of ksfo's competitors and they will expose you through their investigations. why is it that you never attack anyone other then ksfo hosts? no attacks on KNEW or michael savage, bill o'reilly etc...
(emphasis mine)

It is interesting to note how he views AT&T, Visa and FedEx. It makes me wonder if those advertisers have stopped advertising. I wonder how he views advertisers who are considering pulling their ads? Let his own words about these advertisers be your guide.

But of course if questioned he will probably go into denial mode (see Morgan's methods above). I, of course, never said anything like that about the advertisers, those are his own views.

And for the record, I don't work for Savage, Ward or KSFO's competitors, but of course that would be the easy answer to give to an advertiser. It appears that SV can't imagine anyone being repulsed enough by the violent rhetoric that goes out on the public airwaves on this station to do something as basic as alert the advertisers.

And the good people at Media Matters are doing a fine job illustrating what Michael Savage, Bill O'Rielly, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are saying. I'm a 5th tier blogger so I figured I should focus on the local people that don't already have someone paying attention to what they are saying.

Spocko's Vendetta said..

god you've got so much information that the police think you work at 900 front st! they're going to find you spocko aka james madison aka patrick mcshane. they're going to find you and sue you for everything you've got. slander slander slander libel libel libel. you will go down before they lose an advertiser. why don't you stop being such a coward and walk down the hall to luckoff's office and tell him who you are and why you hate him so much.
(emphasis mine)

I see that the police are on this investigation! In earlier comments it was the FBI too. I do hope that "they" (Disney?) knows that I am being threatened with the full force and weight of the Walt Disney Company legal team. I'm not sure they would approve of their legal team being summoned and directed toward me, a private citizen. But then again not being within your organization (hence no "walk down the hall") I don't know how these things work.

Note how easily SV throws the term slander and libel around. As I'm sure Melanie Morgan knows, slander and libel are very difficult things to prove. Morgan uses that knowledge to protect her from suits from Cindy Sheehan, the photographers from the LA Times and the SF Chronicle.

The language of thugs

As David Niewert has pointed out, violent rhetoric on the radio is used for multiple purposes. Sometimes it is directed toward groups to marginalize them, sometimes it is used to intimidate them. And as my friend Thers notes, not everyone has the resources of the main stream media or the security team of a US Congresswoman.

So when the language of thugs is applied to different groups the responses vary based on their resources.

  • When Lee Rogers talks about shooting and torturing a black man in another state because he was arrested too many times, Melanie Morgan laughed and management determined it was fine. Kevin Holder probably doesn't even know Rogers wanted him dead.
  • When Brian Sussman talks about cutting off the finger and then the penis of an Iraqi in another country, management ignored it. When the comment led to advertisers leaving, management supported him.
  • When Melanie Morgan said the following about a sitting congresswoman and the soon to be Speaker of the House "We've got a bull's-eye painted on [Pelosi's] big, wide laughing eyes", we know that it was brushed aside with non-apologies that don't even acknowledge the threat.

So when Spocko's Vendetta says, "be careful spocko. they're coming for you..." I can see it is all a part of a pattern.

Spocko's Vendetta said..

your slander and libel regardin "shitty" is going to cost you. he's saying chivy like some guy from texas. it would be so out of context to rip the advertiser during sussman's stellar live endorsement that it wouldn't make sense. be careful spocko. they're coming for you for lying to their advertisers

(emphasis mine)

Any subsequent escalated violent rhetoric directed toward me (and as you can see they are all capable of this rhetoric) will also be ignored by management. I guess I should be content with the hope that nothing will happen. That I should simply assume that nobody will act on any suggestions of violence directed toward me. And I'm sure that when Chad Castagana sent white powder to Nancy Pelosi and Keith Olbermann it was just as hilarious to them as Lee Roger's "joke" about castrating Bernie Ward was to him.

I think that Rogers, Morgan, Sussman and Brenner should know that what they are saying is working. People have been INSPIRED by what they have said. (Or incited might be another way to put it.) Spocko's Vendetta has gotten the message! He knows what to say and do. If Michelle Malkin's readers are any indication I'm sure my personal info will be posted any minute now and the tainted letters and death treats will begin.

It worked. I'm officially scared. Good job. I'm sure that the Walt Disney Company is as proud of you as they are of Rogers, Morgan, Sussman and Brenner. And, if their pattern dealing with them is any indication, you are in the clear.

Of course if there is a Chad Castagana out there who wants to pick up the ball and run with it feel confident that the law won't hold you responsible. Unlike Rwanda, when someone gives out the address of people and says step on the cockroach (audio), when Lee Rogers says to stomp people to death, it doesn't happen (audio). Yet.


PTCruiser said...

You realize that they're sending the DHS and the CIA after you next.

4:27 PM  
Anonymous said...

I do not think that those words "slander" and "libel" mean what SV thinks they mean.

Hey, Sparky, Google is your friend -- you can look up any definition on Google by going to the site and typing in define:foo, where "foo" is the term you want to look up.


define:slander returns:

# words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another
# aspersion: an abusive attack on a person's character or good name
# defame: charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone; "The journalists have defamed me!" "The article in the paper sullied my reputation"

and define:libel returns:

# a false and malicious publication printed for the purpose of defaming a living person
# print slanderous statements against; "The newspaper was accused of libeling him"
# the written statement of a plaintiff explaining the cause of action (the defamation) and any relief he seeks

Note the similarity there? Both things require that one make the statements falsely.

I seem to recall listening to an awful lot of audio clips of Melanie and the Radio Screamer Gang saying all that stuff Spocko's accusing them of saying. Ergo, not false accusations.


8:17 PM  
Eli said...

I was going to point out that it's not libel if it's true, but interro already beat me to it.

You're a braver man than I am - I really don't like to mess with crazy people. Dangerous *and* icky.

9:12 PM  
Rich said...

Disney should be ashamed of their radio shows!

And of course the starvation wages they pay Haitians for 'family-value' t-shirts.

4:44 PM  
skunqesh said...

Just passing thru, and picked up a vibe...

SV's hysterics have the flavor of a certain well known right wing pundit/ideologue/troll (whose last name rhymes with Foo-Mento's)

Likes to use his failed career as a lawyer to brow beat anyone with 'libel and slander' cat calls while insinuating the author of his ire is just as morally corrupt as the original expose, yadda yadda.

That said, the person I'm thinking of typically uses their real name, so I'm prolly wrong.

Good work spocko! Fight the good fight.

6:51 AM  

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